Sunday, November 19, 2006

What do you think?

Our current Sheriff Hilton is not seeking re-election next year. He has chosen to endorse Deputy Mike Slocum to succeed him. It has been brought to my attention that Deputy Slocum continues to hold his job in the sheriff's department while actively campaigning and that with the "blessing of the sheriff" conducts campaigning during working hours and with the resources of the sheriff's department. I don't know about everyone else but I am not in favor of my tax dollars being used for this purpose. I'll choose my own candidate to "endorse" and would rather "my money" go to him instead. Anyone else have a problem with this?

171 comments:

Joe Ray Bob, Jr. said...

Steel Magnolia, Thanks for the new blog. However, you are wrong if you think the majority of the people in Rapides Parish want to change how our Sheriff's office is being run. We have one of the best departments in the state. Hilton has done a GREAT job. He knows what kind of person it takes to successfully operate the RPSO. He endorses Mike Slocum because he knows that Mike can and will keep the department at the top level of operation that it is now. Go Mike!

steelmagnolia said...

Joe,

Thanks for your post. I didn't say anything about what the majority of Rapides parish wants or doesn't want. All I want is for citizens to be aware of what their tax dollars are being used for. I just don't believe the taxpayers should have to support a campaign or candidate that they don't approve of and I don't really care who endorses them. I believe that if Deputy Slocum wants to campaign for public office that he needs to step down from his current position and do it on his own time. I don't believe that he should be afforded "advantages" that any of the other candidates don't have access to.

charlie789 said...

steelmagnolia:

Major Mike Slocum is not a civil servant and is therefore not required to step down from his position within the RPSO. He is a working man, just as everyone else and I believe that he has the right to continue his job. He is an essential leader within the department and I know he does his job well (the reason he is running for Sheriff and being endorsed by our current Sheriff).

Both other candidates, Chuck and Bill CHOSE not to continue in law enforcement. Bill chose to leave the RPSO, and Chuck went on to pharmaceutical sales.

As far as your concerns with tax dollars being spent: that is a very incorrect and uninformend statement for you to make. I have seen Mike take every effort possible for his personal time to be separate from work. I realize his opponents are going to grasp at things against Mike, because he IS very proactive with his job. I just hope that the good things done within the department ar4en't misconstrued by Mike's opponents.

charlie789 said...

Steelmagnolia: you stated "Let's discuss whether the citizens would like to see a change in our current sheriff's department or...... politics as usual."

In response, i can tell you I have been very pleased with our current Sheriff's department and I would be VERY concerned if Mike doesn't become Sheriff. I have been educating myself on the RPSO, and I have found that many other Sheriff departments within the state have modeled programs off our parish's sheriff department. That tells me that our current administration is doing things right!

I have serious questions regarding Chuck Wagner's intentions on becoming Sheriff, as well as his capabilities of leadership. I don't think the voters in this parish are going to fall for "new is better" in his case. As for Bill Robinson, he does have the experience necessary to manage such a large department, but I have concerns regarding his abilities as a leader based on his performance while at the RPSO.

I hope this has helped shed some light on the discussions being held, and I hope this blog will be used to inform, and not to bash the candidates.

charlie789 said...

This is a post from the Ouachita Parish Sheriff Department website:

“The inmates selected for this program are model prisoners,” explained Sheriff Richard Fewell, who came up with the idea for the program after seeing a successful program in Rapides Parish."

Joe Ray Bob, Jr. said...

Steel Magnolia, most of the people that I have talked to want, "politics as usual", concerning the RPSO. They like the way it is being run now and don't want to change it. They want Mike Slocum, as the new Sheriff, to keep the same high level department that we have now.

charlie789 said...

Hi, Joe Ray, nice to see you on this blog! Us retirees have to stick together! MIKE SLOCUM FOR SHERIFF!!

linesecure said...

steelmagnolia,

I am not a current, past or retired employee from the sheriff's office. I, like you, are concerned with the politics within the sheriffs department.

I have done some research (all it took was to go the the Louisiana Attorney General web page and look up opinions) and found that a public paid employee cannot campaign while getting paid by his employer. Which means the eight or 12 hrs. a day he is supposed to work he is not allowed to campaign any during this time. He also is not allowed to use public vehicles or equipment in his campaigning. According to the AG these fall into public payroll fraud and theft by using public vehicles for personal use. This has nothing to do with whether the sheriff supports a canidate or not.

I will make up my mind as to whom I support. We need to get away from the good ole boy politics of the past.

charlie789 said...

linesecure:
I admire you posting an educated opinion; all of which are correct. That being said, I still feel that Mike has the RIGHT to continue to work for the RPSO, as long as he campaigns on his own time.

charlie789 said...

This was also taken off the LA Attorney General's website under the question "Can a non-civil service, full-time sheriff’s deputy run for elective office without taking a leave of absence or resigning his position?":

"With regard to the mandatory leave of absence, note that this office has previously concluded that a non-civil service employee of the police department may run for chief of police without taking a leave of absence from his job or resigning as long as he fulfills his job duties and does not use official time for election activities. He must campaign on off-duty hours."

To me, this says that Major Slocum is not doing anything wrong by staying employed with the RPSO.

charlie789 said...

Linesecure: you state we need to get away from the good ole boy politics of the past...my advice is to carefully evaluate WHO is using "good ole boy" politics; it may not be who you would think.

charlie789 said...

Oh, I also forgot to clarify, in case there are any concerns: I am not retired from the RPSO; I have never been a deputy. I have been actively blogging because I, too, am a concerned voter in the parish. That being said...I question the reasoning behind steelmagnolia's request for no RPSO employees to post...their opinions don't matter? To me, their opinion is VERY important; that will be their next boss!

Joe Ray Bob, Jr. said...

Charlie 789, Glad to see you here too. Just for the record folks, I have never been an employee of the RPSO either.

steelmagnolia said...

Charlie,

I believe the issue at hand is a matter of ethics. I question the ethics of a man who has no qualms about using his position of authority to promote his candidacy.

charlie789 said...

Steelmagnolia,

I disagree with your comments; I don't believe Mike's POSITION will promote his candidacy. Mike has not acted any differently since announcing his intentions. He has always been a proactive leader, just as he has continued to be. That is not his fault the other two candidates CHOSE to quit law enforcement several years ago. I believe Mike's position in the RPSO is an integral role, and it would not be in the citizen's best interest for him to step down at this time.

I've known Mike for over twenty years now, and I can't think of a MORE ethical person. He's always tried to do the right thing, and it concerns me that his opponents have already started the attacks.

charlie789 said...

If you are concerned about matters of "ethics", you may want to look a little closer at the candidates who AREN'T employed within the RPSO. As i have previously stated, i have serious concerns with Chuck Wagner's reasons for running for Sheriff, and the people who have been helping him.

steelmagnolia said...

Charlie,

All I'm saying is that I don't believe it's right for someone to continue employment in a position of authority over the voters for which he will seek support. You can't tell me that he can really keep the 2 roles separate (his position within the sheriff's department and his candidacy for Sheriff)It is just too intertwined,too easily overstepped. If things continue in the manner in which it is now, it looks to me more like the job of Sheriff will be an "appointed position" rather than an "elected position.

charlie789 said...

steelmagnolia:

Let's not forget that the election is almost a YEAR away. How can you ask a man to quit a job that he loves, where an entire division looks to him for leadership, when the election is so far off?

As far as your concerns with the Sheriff becoming an appointed position rather than an elected position: I'm not quite sure how you would come to that conclusion. Anyone can endorse a candidate for an election, but the VOTERS will decide who becomes Sheriff. Endorsements help a voter see who others have confidence in to do a good job; but at the end of the day, our Sheriff will be determined by the citizens of this parish.

steelmagnolia said...

charlie789

I realize the election is a year away but Mr. Slocum has already begun aggressive campaigning. Look at the fundraiser's so far. I don't believe it's asking too much to ask him to step down at this time. When he started blurring the lines between his current employment with the RPSO and his campaign for the next Sheriff of
Rapides parish he should have have stepped down until after the election. He is too closely attached at this time. It is said that the whole RPSO is behind him. I would just like to see if this would be the case if he wasn't in his current position. Bottom line is, if he's as much a "shoe in" as is reported let him run his campaign on his on merit and not take credit for every good thing about the the RPSO as if he solely has accomplished them.

charlie789 said...

I don't feel that Major Slocum has begun campaigning aggressively. Fundraisers have nothing to do with his employment in the RPSO. let me say this: Major Slocum is EMPLOYED with the RPSO...the position he is running for is SHERIFF of the RPSO...I think it is good for voters to see that he is NOT all talk, as other candidates may be.

Like I have said before: both Bill Robinson and Chuck Wagner CHOSE not to stay in law enforcement. That is not Mike's fault, and he shouldn't have to step down to even the playing ground.

charlie789 said...

Also, anything good done in the RPSO under Major Slocum's supervision is a reflection upon his leadership skills...does that mean he takes credit for everything in the department? Absolutely not.

steelmagnolia said...

Charlie789,

It seems as though you imply that anyone without "current ties" to the department is "all talk". That is not true! Just because Mr. Slocum continues employment with the RPSO doesn't mean that he is the best qualified candidate.

I believe you'll see as time goes on that there will be greater scrutiny, more "ethical concerns" regarding the separation of Mr. Slocum's "job" and his active campaigning.

I dare to say that the RPSO will not crumble without Mr. Slocum's presence during his campaign. After all, we do still have Sheriff Hilton and a "Chief Deputy" to oversee the department. Let's don't allow a "cloud of ethical suspicion" to hang over the RPSO.

steelmagnolia said...

Also, fundrasisers do have something to do with his employment at the RPSO if he utilizes the personnel and resources of the department when doing so. I believe that has been a "voiced concern" of some employees of the RPSO.

charlie789 said...

Ah, but steelmagnolia, I never said the only reason Major Slocum is the best qualified candidate is because he is already an employee of the RPSO; we can dance with this subject for an entire year, if you like, or we can change the subject. Also, if you would like to continue on the "ethical concerns" of the candidates, I would recommend you look very very closely at our DA's office. It appears that it has turned into quite the circus, with certain employees campaigning for Chuck Wagner directly from their office, as well as Chuck Wagners' campaign chairperson AND treasurer BOTH being assisstant district attorneys...it seems to me there is cause for concern with THEIR separation of job and active campaigning for Wagner...hmmm...something to think about.

In response to your comment regarding the department crumbling without major Slocum: I'm sure it wouldn't, but it doesn't mean it is in the department's best interest for him to step down. Basically, Major Slocum's opponents are going to cry "no fair" that he is still employed with the RPSO; but the REALITY is that he is breaking NO rules, and has made CERTAIN that here has been a SEPARATION between his job and any campaign activities.

charlie789 said...

By the way, i find it ineresting that you are so quick to state "certain RPSO empoyees have voiced concern", yet your blog comes with the request that no RPSO empoyee post comments.

steelmagnolia said...

Well charlie,

I'll concede on several of your points. I guess we need to be ever vigilant in our "campaign ethic policing". I would just like to see a clean campaign. Maybe there's no such thing in this day and age.

I did request that RPSO employees not post on this blog and the reason being that "other sheriff race blogs" seem to be inundated with "insiders" with apparent personal vendettas. They just throw trash out there and let it fall where it may. I was hoping that this blog would be more for the "average joe", citizens concerned with politics in our community. My comment concerning "RPSO employees voicing concerns" was to get a point across. That point is to ensure that Mr. Slocum does not use the resources of RPSO for his campaigning as has been witnessed by some RPSO employees.

I just want the citizens of the parish to be informed of "who's clean and who isn't" I'm sure there is still a bad taste in the mouths of some citizens with regards to the recent mayoral race.

totellthetruth said...

This is a test

charlie789 said...

Steelmagnolia: I agree that the other blog has become a place to spread alot of junk, and I'm glad that you are trying to keep this one clean. As far as the recent mayoral election, I feel it serves as a warning to the candidates: voters are not interested in dirty campaigning, spreading rumors.

randy said...

Sorry steel, but I'm going to throw my two cents in.

Mike doesn't need to step down.

If you really believe this then every sheriff that runs for re-election needs to step down every four years.

Mike has been a huge part in making RPSO one of the top Sheriff Offices in the state.

Mike is doing a great job now as usual and yes it would hurt the dept. if Mike would leave his post.

Mike has conducted his personal and professional life in an exemplamary manner.

Mike not only needs to be sheriff but deserves to be sheriff.

The people of the Dept. and the Parish need Mike Slocum to be the Sheriff.

Steel I know you don't want ex or present deputies to blog hear, but if kept clean our imput is invaluable.

Who better to know who their next boss should be than the people who are going to have to work with the next sheriff?

Sheriff Hilton and ex-Sheriff Holingsworth know why Chuck and Bill are running.

They want whats best for the Dept. and for the people of the parish.

Mike Slocum is running for sheriff for the right reasons.

Mike Slocum IS the right man for the next sheriff.

He will be a sheriff our parish will be proud to have serve us.

linesecure said...

After Grady Kelley died and Hilton announced that he would run for sheriff he resigned because he knew that he could not politic while on duty and still perform as chief of detectives. While Hilton was gone from the department running for office I don't believe the department suffered.

I find it amazing that Hilton allows Slocum to stay and politic while he is working. I've been at two meetings during the day when Mike Slocum came and spoke to our groups and he was in the sheriff's office vehicle. He also had other deputies with him that I believe was also on the ttaxpayers payroll at the time.

This goes back to the previous post I posted from November 22.

charlie789 said...

linesecure:

In response to your post, first, if I can remember that far back, Sheriff Hilton stepped down about three months before the election. I don't think it is very fair to compare that election to this one.

Second, from my understanding, as long as sheriff deputies are not on schedule (not being paid), they can go wherever they want, on their own time. I believe that if Major Slocum spoke at any meetings, it was during his own time, as well as any other employees of the department. I'm pretty sure they know how much scrutiny they are under, and wouldn't break any rules.

Lastly, I have a feeling that once the candidates qualify, things will be different. It is insane to ask a man to step down from his job a YEAR away from an election. I will state this one more time for any other bloggers: Major Slocum is NOT required to step down from his position because he is not a civil servant.

charlie789 said...

linesecure: do you have any concerns with other candidates using public resources for their campaigns? Because if you do, just take a look at our DA's office and Chuck Wagner...

johnnie-be-good said...

I am new to the area and I understand that we will be electing a new sheriff for this parish. Could someone en-lighten me about the different canidates who will be running. I hear that Bill Robinson has been gathering support for a year or two and looks to be the front runner in this race. From what I heard about him he is the MAN.

linesecure said...

charlie789

I personally have no problem if any public paid employee campaigns for a canidate (or himself) as long as he doesn't campaign during working hours and does not use public vehicles or equipment during the campaign.

I see no difference in this and an employee that works at Wal-mart and is selling home interior to customers while at work. I don't think that Wal-mart or any employer would allow it.

charlie789 said...

linesecure: As I have previously stated, I don't believe Major Slocum has campaigned during his work hours, and I don't believe he has used RPSO resources for his campaign. If you are referring to him driving to the meeting in his vehicle...that is stretching your complaint, don't you think? That is kind of like saying a public employee can't use their vehicle to drive to a restaurant on their lunch break...it's just grasping.

charlie789 said...

Johnnie: I find it VERY hard to believe you recently moved here, and heard Bill is the "man". If it is indeed true, you may want to do a little more research on your candidates.

charlie789 said...

linesecure: do you have a problem with some of our district attorneys, and a certain secretary in the DA's office, using resources from that office to campaign for a candidate? I find cause for concern, I can promise you.

linesecure said...

charlie789

I think I answered that question in the last post.

But I will restate differently.

I disagree with ANY public paid employee using anything that belongs to the public, whether it be a computer, typewriter, copy machine, stamps, etc. to actively campaign for political office.

I have known people that have run for political office and for re-election and they have set up offices away from their work to handle campaigning.

I hope this answeres your question

charlie789 said...

linesecure: thanks for clarifying; I guess I didn't understand your other post...that's what happens as you age! I agree with your post, at the same time, I caution anyone not to be quick to judge during this race...sometimes, the people you think are breaking the rules are actually the only ones following them...just a little something to think about. :)

charlie789 said...

On to a NEW subject, I would love to hear what you guys consider to be important issues pertaining to this election. Please, try to keep from personally attacking any of the candidates, though.

linesecure said...

I believe that every honest person wants the same thing. I say "honest" because that will leave out the people that want some personal favor from the candidate.

I believe that most people want the office of sheriff to treat everyone the same, enforce the law equally and fairly, service the people of the parish and be forthright.

I understand that the office of the sheriff is a political position but that does not mean that if he treats people fairly, even if they are arrested and convicted, does not mean that he cannot be re-elected. For too long there have been people that have been untouchable because of their political connections and that needs to change.

johnnie-be-good said...

Charlie789, I dd just move into the area and I did do some research on the canidates involved and Bill had the least amount of skeletons in his closet that Mike. Also I do agree with you that this needs to be kept to the pertainant issues regarding this race. It sounds to me that you have your head so far up Mikes butt that if he turns the corner real fast that it would break your neck.

charlie789 said...

linesecure: I agree, in a perfect world that would be great. I think what matters the most to me, is that we have a sheriff who is an honorable person, does the things he promises to do, is capable of managing not only the employees, but also the citizens of the parish, capable of handling the administrative duties of the office, able to relate to the employees and citizens and have their respect, have compassion for those who need help (I think this is VERY important), and the list goes on. I guess, in summary, some of the most important qualities I think our candidate should possess would be CAPABILITY, RELIABILITY, LEADERSHIP, and EXPERIENCE. The reason I think experience is so important in this position is because the office of Sheriff is unique in that not only is it an administrative office, but it is also the highest ranking officer in the department.

charlie789 said...

Johnnie: IF indeed you did just move here, I would ask you, where are you doing your research, then? To me, if you research a candidate, you determine the qualities you feel are important in a candidate, and find out which candidate best fits those qualities. You don't find who has the most "dirt" on them, because usually, it's not true or only partly true, and usually it is coming from someone with a personal vendetta against the candidate. Believe me, I have heard plenty of "skeletons" about Bill Robinson, and Chuck Wagner...but do I blast those to people? No, because the issue at hand is their candidacy for Sheriff, of which I believe Mike Slocum to be the best qualified based on the qualities I feel are important.

linesecure said...

charlie789

In reference to your statement, in a perfect world that would be great, I feel that I must reply. Please understand I am not attacking you.

I feel that we as a society have taken that stance too long and look what it has gotten us. We have said that since we do not have a perfect society that we must accept what we have. In turn, each year our expectations are lowered. If we do not strive for a perfect society, all downfalls are our fault.

Enough said.

charlie789 said...

linesecure: I don't take your disagreements personally, just as I hope you don't take mine. I enjoy having educated debates with people who aren't just out to blast one particular candidate.

That being said, I do agree with your post. What I was trying to say, is that no one is perfect; I would hope that all of our political leaders (Sheriff, Mayor, DA, Judges, etc) would be fair and not give out personal favors. However, I do believe it is important to have compassion towards those who are going through difficult times. The line between what is fair, and what is not is very gray...there is not a clear definition of what fair is.

Tricia said...

linesecure said...
I believe that most people want the office of sheriff to treat everyone the same, enforce the law equally and fairly, service the people of the parish and be forthright.I understand that the office of the sheriff is a political position but that does not mean that if he treats people fairly, even if they are arrested and convicted, does not mean that he cannot be re-elected.

charlie789said...
I think what matters the most to me, is that we have a sheriff who is an honorable person, does the things he promises to do, is capable of managing not only the employees, but also the citizens of the parish, capable of handling the administrative duties of the office, able to relate to the employees and citizens and have their respect, have compassion for those who need help (I think this is VERY important), and the list goes on. I guess, in summary, some of the most important qualities I think our candidate should possess would be CAPABILITY, RELIABILITY, LEADERSHIP, and EXPERIENCE.

Hey fellows, It looks like you two both are looking for the same qualities in our next sheriff! It's possible you just disagree on who that person is.
Linesecure, ponder on this for a while- Major Slocum has gained the respect of the majority of the department for those very qualities you are looking for. If you have been dis-satisfied with the current Sheriff, remember Major Slocum has not had the opportunity to prove himself in that position as of yet.
Come on and join our team! It's the winning team!

Tod said...

Steel Magnolia-Looks like it didn't take long for the slocum supporters to jump out of the bushes on you.They still can't say anything to prove how solcum is going to save the world but they sure don't mind saying how Robinson or Wagner is not going to.
I hear more support for the other two canidates every day while Slocums support is going down hill.
Johnnie knows what I'm talking about.Funny how most of the neg things lately are about Wagner and not Robinson as has been the case.

charlie789 said...

Tod, I'm not surprised you decided to wriggle your negativity onto this blog...it seems you aren't as interested in discussing the candidates, as bashing Major Slocum. If you would read clearly, you would see that so far, this blog has become an exchange of views, not negativity, and not bashing of the candidates. Have you ever brought up any important issues to discuss? Or given any good reasons to support Bill Robinson? Because I haven't heard any. I hope you can keep your negativity to the other blog (the one YOU created only to spread gossip), and leave this one for educated discussion.

charlie789 said...

steelmagnolia and linesecure: I have enjoyed debating with you and hope to continue. I feel that although we may not support the same candidates, we can discuss the differences in a mature fashion.

steelmagnolia said...

I feel as though I must respond to Tricia's comment. She says that if you have been dis-satisfied with the current Sheriff, remember Major Slocum has not had the opportunity to prove himself in that position as of yet.

I have to say that if there is indeed a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" approach to current politics that it will probably be perpetuated with Major Slocum. He is endorsed by the Sheriff and that could equal
"politics as usual".

Although I can't say anything negative about Sheriff Hilton's accomplishments in the RPSO I believe we should think long and hard about any questionable activity we have heard associated with the sheriff's department or its leader. I do believe in "justice for all". I don't want to think about illegal activity being tolerated in my backyard due to "who's kin, "who knows who, "who's got money", or "who it would be good to have some dirt on for a later date". I'm by no means accusing anyone of anything. Just some brain munchies.

randy said...

folks, Its getting ready to start.

The strategy has leaked out of the Robinson camp.

Come January you will see mud being thrown everywhere connected with Mike Slocum.

Bill doesn't care if he wins sheriff, he just wants to make sure Mike Slocum doesn't win.

Bill will commit political suicide if it takes that to try and stop Slocum from becoming sheriff.

Come to think about it, this really won't hurt Robinson because he retired at 100% at above $70,000
a year.

Bill's going to try and help Wagner come in the backdoor by entwining Slocum's campaign in a mud thowing contest.

Bill's also trying to split the sheriff dept.

Please take note at what is happening in Opelousas right now.
The new sheriff of St.Landry Parish Sheriff Dept. just came in and decided to not re-hire over 20 deputies his first day of taking office.
He's been not re-hiring about (3) deputies a day.

This sheriff is fullfilling his promise to not firing any deputies if he is elected....He's just not re-hiring them.

Be aware if Slocum is somehow defeated by trick, theft or whatever, there will be a blood bath in the dept. when the new sheriff takes over.

St. Landry's new sheriff told the deputies to stay out of the race and that way no matter who won they would not be fired.
It worked and he got in.
Now their losing their jobs for standing on the sideline.

If your reading this and your not in law enforcement, talk to someone who is and ask them about the St.Landry Parish S.O. situation.

If this happens here it won't just hurt alot of deputies but also the citizens of Rapides Parish.
The parish would suffer because it would take along time to get the dept. working right after the blood bath.

Remeber, you read it here 1st.

I'm not a fortune teller, this info. leak makes sense to me now.
I never could figure out how Bill thought he could actually win this election.
Bill is in this race to try and stop Slocum from becoming sheriff.

Bill is going to try and destroy and then probably try and trow what support he has over to Wagner.

People don't be suprised when it happens.

If your supporting Bill right now just so you know the truth, Your being PLAYED!!

charlie789 said...

Steelmagnolia: in your overview of your blog you say you "don't care who endorses" the candidates...if that is so, how can you imply that becuase Major Slocum is being endorsed by Sheriff Hilton, that he would equal "politics as usual"? To me, the other candidates are just as into the "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours", as you THINK Major Slocum would be. If you would like, i could provide in-depth details as to WHY I believe the other two candidates will use "good ole boy" politics.

Also, implying illegal activity within the RPSO is a sneaky way to spread that "inside dirt" you suppossedly don't want on this blog. I'll remind you: usually when gossip and lies are spread, it is because of a personal vendetta; also, the side that does the most squawking is usually the party that made it up.

charlie789 said...

Randy: I have heard that myself, by several people who run in their circles. I guess only time will tell. I will tell you, the more I am learning about Chuck Wagner, them more I am beginning to believe he is a sneaky little fellow.

randy said...

charlie, he doesn't have to be all that sneaky, he's backed by a pack of lawyers with a personal finacial agenda.

They'll think of the stratigies, all he has to do is follow their instructions.

Charlie, I felt Bill had a small chance in the election and Wagner had even less.

Bill doesn't care if he's sheriff, just trying to sneak Wagner in the backdoor.

Tod said...

Charlie-You said the party that does all the squawking is usually the party that made it up. Well my friend out of the last 55 comments, 30 of em are yours.Seems like a awful lot of squawking to me.

Stop and think said...
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Stop and think said...

So, Randy, this is your new tactic at discrediting Robinson. You must be really desperate. Whoever is "leaking" this latest, if you are not making it up completely, is definitely not speaking for Bill Robinson, because it is not true. He is not running to somehow get Chuck Wagner in office. He is running because he feels he can best address the needs of the Sheriff's Department. You're right about one thing. He is not doing this for the money. He is doing it because he feels it is his duty as a responsible citizen to do so.

As for Bill trying to split the Sheriff's Office, that is also not true, even though there is definitely a split. The problem is there are many in the department who are for Bill, for sure, but are afraid to speak out at this time because of their jobs. After all a year is plenty of time for charges against Robinson supporters to be trumped up, resulting in lost jobs.

undecided said...

everyone is talking about slocum stepping down for the race, I was curious about charles fredrick smith? was he asked to step down from his position when he entered the mayoral race

Tod said...

Undecided- The answer is Yes.

steelmagnolia said...

sorry charlie,

I didn't mean to start negativity. I was just giving "food for thought". I just want people to look at things from all views. Politics as usual is a fair assumption from someone that is being endorsed from the current administration and if there is someone unhappy with the current Sheriff then they need to weigh that when deciding their vote.

charlie789 said...

tod: in response t your comment, I have not been negatively attacking the candidates based on biased opinions; to me, that is squawking and you, tod, are not one to talk.

charlie789 said...

steelmagnolia: I enjoy our discussions, but I will have to disagree with you on that one. I still believe that Major Slocum will run the department differently than Sheriff Hilton, but will most likely ADD to the progressiveness (is that a word?) of the department that Sheriff Hilton has already started.

Undecided: before you go believing everything tod says, you may want to check on his response to your question. I'm not sure if he was asked or not, because legally, it is not against the rules for a non-civil public servant to run for a political office. Now, the rules may be different for CFS's position, I'm not sure but can find out for you.

charlie789 said...

stopandthink: I have no idea who Randy is, but I must say I have heard this rumor also. I am not trying to spread any lies; if you are involved in Bill's campaign, I would think you would be interested in knowing that people from both Bill and Chuck's circles have been implying this to me also. Now, like I've said before, if you know this not to be true, let us know and at least you'll know there are people amongst you who are telling others this information.

Tricia said...

come on guys,
We have about 9 months before anyone even qualifies for the race. Let's see what happens after that. Until then, all is fair. From what I've learned,If Bill or Chuck wanted to be in law enforcement, they could have stayed. They left. Mike stayed. Now the two groups of course would like nothing better than to see Major Slocum leave his current position. That would give them great joy.
I hear that Bill has one or two supporters in the department-and they actively campaign for him during work hours.
I know-Chuck's entire campaign is being run out of the D.A.'s office during work hours. With Paula Brady and one of the so-called assistant D.A.'s "running" his campaign.
(P.S. I heard that Chuck can't get enough support and is re-considering.)
But like I said, none of them have actually qualified-so let's see what happens.

Stop and think said...

Charlie, I do know for a fact that it is not true. I don't know why anyone who is supposedly in Bill's circle would say this. As we know, people can have some strange motivations for the things they do. Whether they are actually trying to sabatoge Bill, or in some weird way feels this can work to his advantage, they are not speaking on Bill's behalf. Bill is putting all his time and energy into his campaign. True, he doesn't feel Slocum is the right man for the job, but hatred is not fueling his campaign.

Tricia, Bill did not retire in order to leave law enforcement. He had been encouraged by many for several years to run for sheriff and finally felt the time was
right. In the time he has been out of the sheriff's department he has devoted time to his family and began to prepare for his campaign. His heart has continued to be for the good of the Sheriff's Department and the parish, as a whole.

charlie789 said...

stopandthink: Bill left law enforcement to run for Sheriff? I'm not sure if I would agree with that, but you have the right to your own opinion. My opinion is that he left over 2 years ago, angry at the department, and now has decided to run against Major Slocum.

sometimesthetruthhurts said...

Randy,

You heard it from the Robinson camp huh? January is the time for mud throwing connected with Slocum? Well, I can tell you that Robinson isn't gonna be throwing mud. I told you before, he is gonna run a "clean" campaign. I believe you're trying to set the stage for when Slocum's skeletons are revealed so that people believe it came from Mr. Robinson.
I can only pray that all the dirty lies and twisted accounts of events that you have been responsible for backfire in your face one day.

And the "split" in the sheriff department that you say Bill is trying to accomplish....did you honestly think the ENTIRE DEPARTMENT would support Slocum?
What kind of fantasy world do you live in? Not everyone in the sheriff's department has the blind devotion to Major Slocum that you have. You know what? I bet there is even some employees that don't like him at all, much less want him to be their Sheriff. Get real, any division in the Sheriff department is not because Bill has engineered it. Could it be that the Sheriff department as a whole does not think that Slocum is da man? I realize you have to think that someone else is responsible for anyone that doesn't support your candidate but the fact of the matter is....your candidate is the responsible party, it seems as though with the exception of some of his supporters that he is his own worst enemy!

Oh, and by the way, your comment about "if Slocum is somehow defeated by trick, theft or whatever"
Somehow defeated?? by trick or theft?? You are unreal!! I hate to break it to you since you are so sure of "your guy" but....I believe he will be "somehow defeated" AND I don't believe it is gonna take tricks or theft to accomplish it.

charlie789 said...

sometimes: you may want to also warn your fellow "supporters" of the same; let's not forget that most comments made by several robinson supporters have been VERY negative, VERY false statements.

charlie789 said...

Also, why don't we discuss some actual ISSUES, and keep all of the petty "my candidate is better than yours" bickering to the other blog. There is no point in it, and all it does is discredit anything you have to say.

charlie789 said...

Here's an issue I have: can ANYONE tell me Chuck Wagner's dates of hire in law enforcment, and if he ever held a supervisory position?

randy said...

charlie, lets try this....
Is there any Chuck Wagner Supporters out there!!????

Please speak up!

We have questions!!!

linesecure said...

Randy

I read over on Tod's sherifff race blog that you said Mike Slocum had the support of over 51% of the registered voters.

Maybe all other supporters feel there is no reason to answer you since Slocum has already won the election

Tod said...

Randy-I think you and slocum had the paper upside down when you quoted 51%.It is really 15%.

randy said...

guys,guys,....
Droves of leaders and general population have come out in the open to support Mike Slocum.

Could you please give even a short list of names of supporters you have?

charlie789 said...

linesecure: I'm the one who asked about Chuck's dates of hire and supervisory positions held; I think it is an important question to ask, and one that I have been unable to find an answer to. If anyone knows, please enlighten me. If not, I guess I'll have to assume my first thought, which is Chuck is not qualified, way over his head, and I find it insulting for him to think he can run for this position based on his quaifications.

johnnie-be-good said...

I met some new friends that lives in the Deville, Libuse and Kolin area this past weekend and they were saying that they have known Mike for many years and that he has made threats towards them because they will not be supporting him this election. I believe that this is the area where he lives, and it is ashame that his own NEIGHBORS will not be supporting him. Can someone answer why this is happening.

Tod said...

Johnnie-You've just encountered what a lot of folks have found out about Slocum. If you ain't for him then your're against him. There is no middle ground with that guy.He feels threatened and therefore threatens back.A LOT of people are in the same boat that your friends are.

charlie789 said...

johnnie: something doesn't add up with your story...I find it very hard to believe that you would move here, and just happen to find "friends" all from the areas Major Slcoum is from? What your blogging is a stretch, to say the least. I am from the Deville area, and I know first-hand that there are only a select few people who are against Mike, and they are most certainly not afraid of him; most of these people are against Mike for selfish reasons including personal vendettas and personal gain; a good example is Harmon Ray Belgard.

I know this man, and I know he has sworn to ruining Major Slocum's reputation. All because Mike helped a young, recently married man get a full time job with the department. Harmon Ray was so mad, because he wanted the full-time job; never mind the fact that he was pulling in retirement and didn't need the job as badly as the young man. Harmon Ray caused such a stink about it, and has hated Mike ever since. The young man has done a great job in the department, even though his newborn child was diagnosed with a brain tumor when he was born... now you tell me: who needed that job more? Harmon Ray Belgard? I think not. That just goes to show you that Major Slocum does not get bullied into making bad decisions, and I commend him for that. I can tell from 1st-hand knowledge: Mike is very well-respected and very well-liked in our community, and there aren't many who have bad things to say about him.

charlie789 said...

Now, on to more important things: is Charlie DeWitt throwing his hat in the ring? I would find it interesting to see that happen; I know people in my area aren't very fond of him, since he re-arranged districts, he left the hickory grove area with a representative not even from our parish.

johnnie-be-good said...

Charlie789,

Maybe just maybe I used to live here and moved back and maybe know some of the same people that you know and that is where I get my info from. Think real hard!!!! The ones that have said that they are for Mike might feel threatened again...Its not mud slinging it is just the truth that sooner or later you will have to accept.

charlie789 said...

Well, Johnnie, I guess my gut instinct was right; you're not who you claim to be. But, that is how all of the bloggers (who I assume to be a couple of people under multiple names) against Mike have been; you can't discuss real issues; just a bunch of crap you put together as the "truth". Not to include Steelmagnolia or Linesecure; your debates have at least been educated; let's be honest, Johnnie: you didn't just move here, you haven't just happened to meet people who have it out for Mike; you ARE one of those people who are dead-set on running a slanderous campaign against him; that is your goal through this blog, and you're a ploy your candidate can use to put blame on when the accusations about mud-slinging start surfacing.

johnnie-be-good said...

Charlie789

WRONG!!

I did just move to this area. But what I said got you thinking. Didn't it?

charlie789 said...

Johnnie: even if I am wrong that you just moved back here (which I don't believe for one second), the rest of my post is true; if you cared about the election, and the issues in the parish, you wouldn't be posting comments that don't mean anything, except to try and demean Major Slocum's name.

I will not play this little game with you, but I will summarize in saying: I am from the area you have been talking about, I KNOW who is supporting Mike, which is the majority of Deville, Libuse and Kolin, and I KNOW who isn't supporting Mike. The slim number who aren't are for reasons they can't be proud of, and therefore have to make things up. They are NOT afraid of Major Slocum, and I know for a fact that they have not been threatened. You're not going to be able to insinuate that Major Slocum's community isn't supporting him; I'm sorry, Johnnie, but we WILL prove you wrong there.

charlie789 said...

steelmagnolia: if you haven't become completely disgusted with the way this blog is going, help me to keep to the issues. I would love to know who you are supporting, or are in favor of, and why. Also, if you know anything regarding Chuck's qualifications, please let us know. If you feel that his lack of experience is not important, I would also like to hear your point of view.

totellthetruth said...

Hello steelmagnolia and thanks for making a sight of which the qualifications off each candidate will be examined.

I feel your limitation of your blog to anyone but RPSO employees is unfair as the employees give a unique perspective to who they would want to work for. I am not and never have been an employee of RPSO, but I do know a few.

After lengthy observation and careful consideration, I feel compelled to share the research I have found. I will speak the truth in this blog as the truth, not speculation or conjecture, is what is important.

So here we go.....

Bill Robinson, after serving as a detective, was Patrol Division Major. After the death of Sheriff Kelley, and some committments were made, he was promised the Chief Deputy position, which caused deep problems with then Major Hiltons other close friends and co-workers.

After a few years, Bill started showing an interest in a Wardens secretaries career(Karla Ryder) and convinced then Sheriff Hilton to promote this secretary to the rank of Major over an all female prison, which was not in existance yet.

Karla Ryder is still a Major now over some sort of work release or house arrest program and is actively campaigning for Bill Robinson. She now has been promised the Chief Deputies position. She has never patrolled, never made a felony probable cause arrest, never worked shift work, and she would be second in command???

Bill did strike the radio operator in the wheelchair. It does not matter who he struck, he did this in a fit of anger for no reason. In any other line of work he would have been arrested on the spot. He never apologized, and boasted (especially when around Major Ryder) how he hit his own deputy. He even berated Captain Smith in front of a dozen or so law enforcement officers who could not believe his actions and was embarrased for the Captain.

An internal investigation was conducted and he was suspended for 3 days. He later resigned under a cloud because he had become inaffective as a supervisor, refused to go to anger management, and a liability to the department.
It is the job of the Sheriff to run the department in a professional manner, protect the citizens of his jurisdiction, and promote confidence, trust and integrity in Law Enforcement. Bill Robinson did not convey any of these atributes.

Mike Slocum has been in Law Enforcement since the early 80's, at RPSO since 88 or so. He worked in the jail, patrol, was promoted up through the ranks and now holds the rank of Major. He has never hit an employee to my knowledge and has always put his employees first, always trying to better their way of life, because it was his way of life just a few years ago. He has supervised from a shift level all the way up to a Division which has close to 170 people, according to info Bill has put out from a roster he has gotten. Sheriff Hilton has relied on, does relie on and has endorsed Major Slocum.

Chuck Wagner started out as a deputy in the "barbeque squad" the same group Charles Frederick Smith was in until Sheriff Hollingsworth took over. Then he became a State Trooper, and I believe you were correct, was the rank of Trooper First Class. He then went to the Non-uniform section (detectives or gaming)and then he left. He never supervised anyone but himself and never managed or submitted a budget for review. The reasons to why he left I am still researching. It said on his paper at the Senior Citizens Day at the fair that he retired from the State Police. I feel that is a play on words as a retired person is usually one who gets some sort of monetary compensation for their service, medical or otherwise. I suppose it sounds better than quit though.

The change of party thing is funny as he has always been a Republican, as his father was a Democrat. One thing is very clear, Chuck is not his father. A Sheriff being one party or another is probably not an issue, so why change after announcing? To possibly garner some votes of those "Yellow Dog Democrats"?
A Sheriff needs to enforce the law, protect the citizens of his jurisdiction, and promote trust, cooperation and integrity in Law Enforcement, across racial, economic, or political lines. That is why justice is portrayed as a blindfolded woman holding scales, one of my favorite symbols.
This is a lot to digest I know, so I will leave for now. This race should be about who is the most qualified and committed for the job, and who will lead this department forward from the great leader it has now. I look forward to our intelligent discussions in the near future. Again, my only goal is to tellthetruth, and nothing but the truth.

sometimesthetruthhurts said...

totellsomeofthetruth,

You appear to be well informed by reading your comments, however, I am not fooled by your attempts to come across as someone who simply has been enlightened and now is concerned enough to spread your knowledge to fellow Rapides citizens. It is quite evident in your posting which candidate you support.

Let me "enlighten citizens" as I see things. Karla did receive a promotion earning her position as "major". She is a warden of one of the jails presently. Bill Robinson was instrumental in her achieving this position but as an advocate to the advancement of women within the sheriff's department. In my book, there's not too much bad you can say about that unless of course you're a male chauvanist. Which I suspect is a title held by most of the men who have posted against Karla's advancements within the sheriff's department. After all, how could a woman get such a position without "sleeping her way to the top"? You need to go back to yesteryear my dear gentlemen if you think women are not worthy to be "majors", "wardens", "chief deputy" "Sheriff" (oh God forbid!)
I thank Mr. Robinson for bringing women forward in the sheriff's department as he was also instrumental in placing women in patrol cars, a first in the department history. Does this really sound like a man that has a problem with women? You people accusing him of slapping women around, shame on you! Maybe you should have done more homework before you cried "wolf" on that one! You're slowly but surely losing your credibility! Soon, you're not gonna have no one to listen to your "trash". By the way, although I believe Ms. Ryder would make as good a Chief Deputy as anyone I'm sorry to say that she will not be Mr. Robinson's Chief Deputy. Sorry guys, hate to squash that one for ya'll!

As far as your "facts" about Mr. Robinson striking the radio operator, well sorry! Didn't happen! He did not STRIKE anyone!
Ya'll can't get this one to stick, know why? Didn't happen, he did not STRIKE a man in a wheelchair.

If this was a "legit" post of the truth as you've heard it, then I'm sorry to have to correct you but feel you are entitled to know "the real truth" and I suggest that in the future you shouldn't post what you "hear" as truth. If this post is what I think it was then I make NO apology!

The problem here is you all know that Bill Robinson, Chief Deputy of Rapides Parish for 12 years is the "most qualified" candidate running. He has the knowledge and experience necessary to be our next sheriff. Your attacks on his character CANNOT DISPUTE THIS FACT!
I for one know Bill Robinson and am here to tell you that he is also a decent, hard-working, ethical, Christian man and the citizens of Rapides Parish would be fortunate to have him as their next sheriff.

MorningGlory said...

To whom it concerns:
I see no reason to slam any of our candidates character. Let's all agree and understand, that the friends and families of these men, are all proud of them. I'm sure they are all good men with Christian values. I'm proud to live in this Country where the American Dream can still come true. Young men desiring to take that extra step to become the best they can be and serve their community.

That being said, you should know and consider basic facts that do give Mike Slocum a unique advantage in this race:

#1 Mike Slocum - has made law enforcement a lifetime career.

#2 Mike Slocum - has never skipped a rank.
This gives him a great ability the other candidates can not achieve. The ability to know those poisitions, having been there.
(How could a person who has never worked in a jail, understand those workers and the problems they face?)
(A person who never had to work all day, then work another 8 hour detail, could never have the same understanding as someone who had been there himself.)

#3 Mike Slocum - was not born with a silver spoon (as I recall someone previously posting)
He has worked steadily to accomplish the goals he set for himself. Nothing was handed to him. This gives him the ability to understand a parish with diverse background. As we have established, in the office of Sheriff a person must be compassionate for the needs of the parish. There's more to being Sheriff than putting people in jail.

#4 Mike Slocum has served in law enforcement in a supervisory position.
(How could a person who has never managed or supervised be expected to come in to a department such as our RPSO? Should you take that chance?)

Now you might say of either of the other candidates, that they fit in to one or more of these categories.

But, you must admit, that Mike Slocum is the only candidate that attains all of these unique qualities.

Tod said...

Morningglory-I have to disagree with your last post about the facts that you say gives Slocum a unique advantage in this race.
#1.Slocum has made law enforcement a lifetime career.

Bill Robinson has been in law enforcement for over 31 years

#2.(A)Slocum has never skipped a rank.(B)How could a person who has never worked in a jail understand those workers and the problems they face.(C)A person who never had to work all day and then work another 8 hr shift on top of that one could never have the understanding as someone who has been there himself.

I'll answer this one in three parts
(A)How long was he in each rank and was he ever a Lt.?(B)Mr. Robinson was in charge of the jail system from the warden on down.He understood the handicaps (over crowding,violent inmates,and long hours in contact with these people) more so than the average law enforcement supervisor. (C)Mr. Robinson was a military policeman in VietNam. There were no 8 hr days,no 12 hr days,they were all 24 hr days. Starting out at this level gives you experiance that can not be duplicated in any law enforcement job.

#3.Nothing was handed to him. The office of sheriff must be compassionate for the needs of the parish. There's more to being sheriff than putting people in jail.

Check each of his ranks and see how long he served in each one.The sheriff put him thru what ranks he occupied.Did he meet any boards or panels (test) to attain these ranks? I think not. He has called me into his office many times to tell me that I needed to write more tickets. I wrote more than some but less than others.Slocum and I had a lot differant compassion levels.His idea to solving a problem was "put em both in jail"we'll sort it out later.

#4.Mr. Robinson has a lot more supervisory time in his little finger than slocum has in his whole body.He was even slocums supervisor when he (Robinson)retired.

#5.Now you and everyone else can see that Mr. Robinson is the only candidate that attains all of these unique qualities.

charlie789 said...

tod: I disagree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with your statements. First of all, MorningGlory was correct in her assessment of qualifications and attributes of Major Slocum. She was also correct in stating that no other candidate can say they have EVERY one of the attributes SHE listed. Please elaborate if you feel Bill worked his way through every rank; I would LOVE to debate you on that one. And, I think MorningGlory was using the jail as an example...in the end, you can say Bill held supervisory positions blah blah blah, but it's going to be up to the MAJORITY of voters to determine who will make the best Sheriff: Bill, the ineffective leader who "retired" from the RPSO on bad terms because of anger issues and conflicts with co-workers, Chuck...who has a very minimal amount of law enforcement experience and is using his father's name and good ole boy politics to campaign...or Mike, who has worked his way up in law enforcement and has been an EFFECTIVE and PROACTIVE leader. Please, Tod, enlighten us on what Bill brought to the table while he was with the RPSO; besides clashing with co-workers.

andyouknowit! said...

Hey, everbody. Got some questoins for ya. I was at the chrimas parade and Paula Brady, the secertery of the DA was there, parading around Chuck Wagner like a king. The thang is, he looked more like a little phony; ya know? He was surrounded by a bunch of hoity-toity rich looking people; mainly women with thier hair did; ya know what I meen? Not a single black folk with 'em! All little blondies with fiar skin-----and that man switched over to Demicrat! Anyhoo, to get to my point, Paula Brady is not only the secertery of the DA, she's also Justice of the Peice. To me, that sure sounds like a confict of interst; don't know if any rules are broke, but might be worth lookin into. Go Robinson! I don't care if he hit somebody; he helped me get out of trouble and fixed some tickets and he'll get my vote!

Tod said...

Morningglory- Here's a few more FACTS for you to consider. Mr. Robinson started out as a line deputy from 1975 to 1982. During this time he worked the line and filled in part time as a jailer (as did everyone on the line). During this time he aso was an assistant shift supervisor under Herbert Mount (as was Sheriff Hilton) before getting promoted to detective in 1982.Moving up to detective was considered a move up in rank under then Sheriff Cappell.Sheriff Hilton never even made any rank till he was promoted to Major by Sheriff Kelly and put in charge of the Detective divison. In 1982 to 1988 while serving as a detective Mr. Robinson was promoted to Capt by Major Hilton and Sheriff Kelly.In 1988 he was promoted to Maj by Sheriff Kelly and put in charge of the line divison. Mr. Robinson's,Sheriff Hillton and Chief Sellers careers paralleled under Sheriff Cappell. In 1992 Mr. Robinson was promoted to Chief Deputy when Sheriff Hilton was elected and stayed in that position till he retired in 12004.

Tod said...

Now can some one give me a rundown on Slocums rise to the position he holds now with dates and time he spent in each rank.

johnnie-be-good said...

Charlie789

Not to be on the negative side, but I believe that you do not need to do the debating for Mike, obviously your candidate, he needs to step up to the plate and do this himself, which I believe will not happen.

charlie789 said...

Well, tod, I'm sure that can done but don't really see the point in it. The fact is, BOTH Bill and Mike have experience; that was never the argument. The question is who would be a better Sheriff based on MANY qualities; experience being one, and leadership being another. You can say all day long that Bill was a good leader, and I will argue with it. The fact is that it will be up to the voters to look at the facts, and determine their own opinions. I can guarantee you they aren't going to just take your word for it that Bill was a good leader, just as they won't take my word for it that he was ineffective. Actions speak louder than words, and I'm afraid there weren't many good actions from him in his later years of Chief at the RPSO.

charlie789 said...

Now Johnnie, as long as there are people like you doing everything in your power to discredit him, I will set you straight. Mike can take care of himself, I'm sure. And Johnnie, let's not beat around the bush; you aren't on this blog because you haven't made up your mind about the candidates; you're pushing somebody,and you think by posting nasty little comments you'll help him...not going to work, sorry.

Anduknowit: I find it amusing that you would be supporting Bill because he's helped you get out of trouble and fix your tickets; what a great reason to support someone for Sheriff! That being said, that is an interesting bit of information regarding Paula Brady, one that definately should be looked into. I looked on the Louisiana Board of Ethics site, and there wasn't anything about Justices of the Peace, but I think they are held to the Code of Judicial Conduct; I'll have to look into it.

randy said...

News Flash.

Redneck is actually a Wagner supporter mascarading as a Robinson supporter.

Due to this I refuse to reply to him/her or anyone that I'm suspicious of.

Trying to tie us up with mud so we don't ask the tuff questions about Chuck.

Pablo said...

Greetings to the blogging public as I am new to this form of interaction. As I have read here, some of you seem to have specific information about certain events with regards to Bill Robinson. I have a few questions:
1. Why would a sitting Sheriff whom everyone adores not endorse or support his former chief?
2. Why would a chief promote a secretary to major?
3. Why would a chief hit an employee?
4. Why did he leave his position at the Sheriff's Department?
5. Why was he terminated from his job at the Federal Bankruptcy Court and did it have anything to do with why he left the Sheriff's Department?
I think these are legitimate questions that need to be answered TRUTHFULLY without any spin.
I thank anyone with insight to my questions.

Pablo

charlie789 said...

youknowit: well, I have found where Paula Brady is listed as a Justice of the Peace, but still haven't been able to find if she is breaking the Judicial Code of Conduct; my guess would be, if you have a problem with her actively campaigning for Chuck Wagner, and think she may be in the wrong, go and talk to her boss about it; I'm sure he'll know if any rules are being broken.

sometimesthetruthhurts said...

Pablo,

You have not read ALL the comments obviously OR you are another Slocum supporter sent to stir up or reinforce the accusations concerning Mr. Robinson. I choose to believe the latter. You reek of a plant! Aren't ya'll ever gonna get tired of this little game? No, let me answer this one. You're not, we have this to look forward to for the next year I suppose. I'll humor you anyway.

1. Why would a sitting Sheriff whom everyone adores not endorse or support his former chief?

I won't answer that one but I have my own opinions concerning it. Unlike ya'll I don't just casually toss negative comments based upon speculation, rumors, and gut feelings.

2. Why would a chief promote a secretary to major?

He wouldn't and he didn't, our good sheriff did.

3. Why would a chief hit an employee?

He wouldn't HIT an employee and he certainly DID NOT!

4. Why did he leave his position at the Sheriff's Department?

He RETIRED.

5. Why was he terminated from his job at the Federal Bankruptcy Court and did it have anything to do with why he left the Sheriff's Department?

He wasn't and no it didn't.

Anything else I can clarify for you Mr. Pablo? Didn't think so!

Give it a rest guys!!!!

charlie789 said...

somtimes: I hate to say your fellow supporters started the negativity, but they did; and I must take up for a few of Pablos's comments and disagree with your post. ALTHOUGH, the fact that Bill was involved in an altercation with a co-worker is old news...it DID happen. For you to say otherwise is either very naive or very uninformed. Why is it of importance? Because it shows the general tension within the department between himself and co-workers at the time of his "retirement". Yes, Bill did take an interest in Karla Ryder's career, and it is no secret to anyone in the department. Now, as far as the Bankruptcy Court, this is the first I've heard and am working on trying to find a RELIABLE source with an unbiased view to give details.

I have a new blog I created not for all this bashing you all like to do, but rather as a place to go for information with links to different sites I have found to be helpful as I have researched my arguments. It is www.thoughtsfromrapides.blogspot.com Please feel free to visit and use the links, but no dirt is welcome on the site; it will be deleted.

sometimesthetruthhurts said...

Charlie,

At this point, it doesn't really matter who started what. Anytime that the same old "junk" is posted against Bill Robinson I am going to post a rebuttal.

As far as you calling me naive or uninformed, I think not! I never disputed the fact that an altercation of sorts occurred but Mr. Robinson never HIT ANYONE in the department! And as far as Karla Ryder's career, I've posted before that he was a MENTOR to her and has done a lot for the promotion of women within the department. So, there you got it!
Anyone can go back to read my previous posts regarding "women in the department" and the chauvanistic attitude exhibited by Mr. Slocum's supporters who have posted on several of the blogs.

Good luck on your "new blog", I believe you're dreaming if you think you can keep it clean. You need to watch out with that censorship that you are going to institute. Remember where we live and our rights to "free speech".

charlie789 said...

sometimes: I guess we can agree to disagree; but just because I disapprove of Bill's actions while employed within the department in no way means I'm a chauvinist; if Karla would have been deserving, it would be a different story; sorry to offend you, but the truth hurts sometimes

Pablo said...

I just wanted to say thank you Charlie as you always blog from a positive point of view and tell the truth about incidents that have happend and call it the way it is.

I understand a certain term limited Representative who just voted AGAINST the citizens of Bunkie and the Sugar Mill, which also in-turn effected the state supplemental pay for First Resonders, thinks he wants to try the Sheriff's job on for size.

The Chief Law Enforcement Officer of a jurisdiction needs to be A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER PERIOD!!!!!! Not some elected official looking for a new job.

The citizens of Rapides Parsih, concerned or not, need the leadership of MIKE SLOCUM.

None of the other candidates are talking about removeing the deputies from the schools or giving the tax back now, are they?
As usual, it was a ploy to take the heat off of their lack of qualifications.

When someone goes to get a job, employers look at qualifications.
MIKE SLOCUM IS THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE BY FAR.

Charlie, I look forward to your new blogspot. Thanks for your un biased blogging.

Pablo

Tod said...

Pablo- You and Charlie are so full of it.You gonna hurt yourselves patting each other on the back so hard.

charlie789 said...

Aw, Tod...are your feelings hurt because everyone is getting tired of dishing dirt; therefore, you have nothing to talk about??

sometimesthetruthhurts said...

Pablo,

As usual, anyone that posts anything contrary to "negative allegations" towards Bill Robinson is somehow considered "negative". You see the irony in this? If the allegation is negative in nature to begin with how am I making a negative post?

Charlie supposedly posts from a "positive" point of view as long as it is reinforcing the "negative allegations" towards Mr. Robinson.

Like I said, I am here to ALWAYS defend Mr. Robinson on the negative allegations related to "incidents that have happened and call it the way it is" (which is a quote from Pablo's post) I sir, am calling it the way it was! Of course, the truth hurts ya'll so you come back charging us with posting "negative comments"!

And in reply to your comments regarding "the other candidates talking about removing the deputies from the schools or giving the tax back" Bill Robinson never "talked" about this occurring. The only thing posted in regards to this is THE WAY CERTAIN TAX MONIES ARE BEING SPENT. And of course, there is certainly BETTER ways of utilizing the tax monies. Some of them have yet to even been thought of as well as ideas already in existence. And that is how it should be in reponse to the ever-changing needs of a community. Mr. Robinson never said he would attempt to rescind the "tax".

Now, to quote your comment " a ploy to take the heat off of their lack of qualifications." That is eithor "very naive or very uninformed" and I made sure to post this as quoted by Charlie to make sure this will not be construed as "negative". Mr. Robinson has no need for a "ploy" as his qualifications are more than sufficient. He is not lacking in any area in regards to qualifications. He was Chief Deputy of Rapides parish for 12 years and only recently retired. He is "up" on the current administration and would continue to lead it "forward" if given the opportunity!

And finally, here goes your quote of course substituting your belief with mine. "When someone goes to get a job, employers look at qualifications. BILL ROBINSON IS THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE BY FAR."

"The citizens of Rapides Parsih, concerned or not, need the leadership of BILL ROBINSON."

Now, I challenge ya'll to call this post negative as it is quoted per your posting!

charlie789 said...

Now, Sometimes...I have never pretended to be unbiased; I have always stated my support is for Mike Slocum. That being said, you state that when an employer looks to hire someone for a job they look at qualifications; true, but I would think they would also look at the recommendations from former employers ( I believe that would be Sheriff Hilton), and I would also think they would take into consideration performance from that previous job. So, in conclusion, you analogy describes that Major Slocum would be the best candidate, and the "employer" would "hire" (or vote for, in this case) Mike instead of Bill. Major Slocum has the qualifications, stamp of approval from his boss Sheriff Hilton, and has an exemplary track record within the department. Bill does not; all he has is his tenure with the department...and Chuck? Well, he doesn't even have that.

BAYOU-COP said...

No trying to stir anything just looking for some help in understanding this. I was told that in past history there was only about $300,000 in Rapides Parish that has ever been given to anyone running for Sheriff. If (and I'm saying if) thats the case then where is the money going to come from for Chuck or Bill to run. It takes money to run an effective campaign. Now as I understand it Slocum has over $280,000, so where is the other folks gonna get thiers? If I have heard wrong on this then someone correct me as this was given to me third party.

obi-wan said...

The preassure is applied by the underbosses.However, out in the world supporters of mike seem to be few and far between.i don't mind being disagreed with it is just a observation of one man,but the attitued of "we'v got this thing sewed up" seems to have changed to, we gotta fight.wonder why, maby it's becaus people have a mind of there own and a free will.The empire is getting this kind of feedback.I only wish Sheriff Hilton would have backed someone everyone could agree on and not someone currently employed with the R.P.S.O. this has caused friction and sides to be taken.thoes that do not support sclocum must not speek as freely as those that do,unfair yea but that seems to be the name of the game.I wonder if Bill could get the five hundred thousand dollar attack R.V. "the Air Forse One of the R.P.S.O. to be apart of a campaign percesion in a holiday event.The good people of Rapides are not impressed with the use of parish resources in the name of slocum for sheriff.Bad move sir!And good luck,your gonna need it.

charlie789 said...

obi: I think it is hilarious in your comments regarding Major Slocum. Don't you guys think all of the whining is getting a little old? I guess the positive responses voters have been sending to Major Slocum are starting to get you all worried. Hate to disappoint you, but no parish resources were used on Major Slocum's float; try again. And, believe me...if you think Major Slocum's supporters are dwindling in numbers...I feel very sorry for you. The fact is, we're very ENCOURAGED by all the support that has been shown, and promised this weekend to Major Slocum.

obi-wan said...

I think I'm gonna take some action.The high ranking retards at work seem to think they can do or say anything in the name of slocum for sheriff.A line was crossed the other day and i think i'll do something about it.I got plenty of proof!mike one of your ranking piles of DO-DO made a comment concerning my closest famley member in the name of you for sheriff.F%#* you him and your hopes for office.And as far as your hit list,You can wipe your ass with it buddy,the same way you wiped your ass with the rules set forth in the green book.The fools you trust to win you votes at the job while on the job are blowing it for you,HA get it?BLOWING IT FOR YOU.Well know this the the most costley screw up has taken place.Should have told them to watch there words at work.you never know when the tape is running.

charlie789 said...

obi: It's obvious you are trying to make people think the department is split; when in reality it is just a few of you, blowing smoke and complaining. If you REALLY have a problem, and want to do something about it, go to the Sheriff and quit crying on this blog. Grow up. Also, did you ever think that the person who made a comment regarding your family member may have said it because that is what they felt; and it had nothing to do with Mike? I swear, between you and Redneck, ya'll sound like a bunch of third graders whining to everybody BUT the teacher.

psych14 said...

Charlie 789,
I don't think u know exactly what Obi's sittuation is, so how can u suggest that it is only a few of them.I don't think u are really aware of the reallty. If u are not for Mike Slocum how can u run to the Sheriff. I think u are missing the point about talking abou a family member,u might want to review Obi's comment again.

Pablo said...

I heard this evening that T A Messina is going to run. I know him only by name. Can anyone tell me anything about him other than he is a City Policeman?

Charlie, see what you can find out.

And again, lets keep this civil and not dwell on a lot of conjecture and accusations.

charlie789 said...

Psych14: I am VERY much aware of the "reality" of Obi's "situation". It doesn't matter if he is for Mike or not; if he has a problem at work with ANYONE, go to the Sheriff. Quit whining about it on the blog; the same goes for anything else.

Pablo: I have also heard that TA has mentioned running; but I can't verify that. I can give you my opinion: it would be absolutely hilarious if TA tries to run for Sheriff. He would probably cut a dent into what small amount of supporters Bill has; my reasoning behind that is because they attract the same type of following, and have similar leadership problems. BUT...I'll try to get back at a later time with VERIFIED information concerning this, and not just my opinion.

Tod said...

Charlie--Did it ever occur to you to just ask T.A. .Duh!

Jesus is not sleep said...

Jesus is looking down on this race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus is not sleep said...

what is slocum going to do for the department as a whole?

ACE20WARSTI said...

I HAVE LIVED IN RAPIDES PARISH MOST OF MY LIFE,I HAVE LIVED OVERSEAS AND DIFFERENT STATES, AND HAVE NEVER SEEN PEOPLE LIKE THOSE IN THE SHERIFF DEPT.,MOST OF THE MEN AND WOMEN DO A GOOD JOB I GUESS ,BUT THE OTHERS I HAVE SEEN SEEM TO THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAWS IN THIS PARISH AND STATE. I HAVE SEEN MISUSE OF PARISH CARS AND OTHER VECHILES EVERYDAY. THIS PEOPLE GET A FREE RIDE ON THE TAX PAYERS. I HAVE WITNESSED MYSELF THIS EVENT ON COUNTLESS TIMES , ON 12-15-06 A FRIDAY NIGHT A RPSO CAR ON HWY 28EAST ABOUT 7:00PM GOING TOWARDS ALEX. SPEEDING AND PASSING OTHER CARS ON THE EXPRESSWAY JUST TO GET TO THE AIRPARK ,THE DRIVER I DID NOT KNOW ,BUT HE HAD HIS WIFE OR GIRLFRIEND IN THE CAR WITH HIM, IF THIS IS HOW THEY ACT AROUND HERE IN RPSO CARS WHAT ELSE DO THEY DO IN OTHER RPSO VECHILES,I AM TRIED OF PAYING FOR GAS SO THESE PEOPLE CAN DRIVE AROUND TO EAT,TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL,OR ANY OTHER EVENT THAT COST THE TAX PAYERS OF THIS PARISH ,YOU KNOW WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT ! AS FAR AS SLO-CUM ,I THINK THIS MAN IS SO WRONG FOR THIS PARISH ,HE DOES NOT TALK TO THE REAL PEOPLE ,JUST PEOPLE WHO CAN GET HIM ELECTED TO A JOB WHERE HE CAN DO EVEN LESS THAN HE DOES ALREADY ,WHY ARE THERE SO MANY BIG-WIG PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF RPSO ,MANY HAVE A JOB BECAUSE OF HUNTING BUDDIES OR THEY WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER AND THEY GIVE THEIR SONS A JOB WITH NO IDEA HOW THEY WILL DO THEIR JOBS.MORE TO COME,COLECTING MORE INFO...

charlie789 said...

ace: first of all, how did you know the driver was speeding just to get to the airpark? it's not fair to judge unless you know all the details.

secondly, if you're going to attack the RPSO, you'll need to also consider every single emoloyee of the city, parish and state who have take home vehicles; I could say the same thing, that I "personally" saw an employee of the city of alexandria, in a public vehicle, taking his entire family somewhere...so, you're opening up a Pandora's box. Although, I assume you're posting this to try and tarnish the reputation of the RPSO.

And last but certainly not least, I will have to disagree with your statements concerning Major Slocum. He is, by far, the easiest candidate to believe because he is someone the people can relate to. He was not born with a silver spoon, like Chuck Wagner, and he doesn't come across like he is just talking to you because he wants your vote, like Bill Robinson. I have been out in crowds where Mike has been, observing the people's responses to him; most don't realize that I'm a strong supporter; and I can tell you, he is making a good impression upon the public BECAUSE he does talk to the "real" people, as you put it. AND - it is really funny how ya'll keep saying he doesn't do anything in the department; actions speak louder than words, and his actions say he will be the next Sheriff.

Jesus is not sleep said...

Lets just face the truth about the 2007 Sheriff Race Mike Slocum is the man for Sheriff. everybody have their down fall but he is what we need. Instead of trying to bring him down with all this and that yall are saying let see what we can do to make this man sucessful.In every business their are things that need to change. The sheriff department have their problems just like every where else. things that need to change is:
1)Being a Mason Should have nothing to do with your advancement in your field.
2)Need more police protection in the rural area south and north of rapides parish.
3)Need more black deputy on the road.It should have black deputy in Tioga. Tioga have just ass many blacks than whites.
4)On the icap unit it need some blacks and some females on it so all race will have a fair shoot at justices.
5)Community police needs to be more active in the communities. such ass making contact with people.
6) the community needs to get behind make and move this parish forward. William Earl has down a outstanding job and make will build on that and be better.

Lets make this parish the best in the state

BAYOU-COP said...

Jesus might not be asleep but you may need to get some with that spelling........geez

Tod said...

Bayou-cop,I think the spelling is a put on. Nobody spells that bad on purpose. That's a lot of work screwing up like he did.

Tod said...

Happy New Year Everyone-This coming year is going to be interesting

Tod said...

Now that Bill Robinsons web site is up, any or all of you can go to it and pull up his platform,qual, and experience and compare it with Slocums or Wagners and make your mind up which is the most qualified. It's not rocket science to see that Bill Robinson is the leader.

charlie789 said...

tod: in the next few days, please visit my blog and see comments regarding MY analysis of Bill's website. It is very professional; I will say that. The problem is that most of the substance isn't true. But, I'll get to that in a couple of days.

Remmy said...

I know the election is a while away but how come there are not more endorsements coming out besides the ones on Slocum website from people affliated with the Sheriff's department already. I really don't care what the sheriff, or a the RPSO's chaplain think. How about the local business groups and who they support. As a business owner in Rapides I would like to know whose platform is more conductive to growth for my business and protection of my family. And before any one decides to quip back , the Sheriff's polices do have a big influence on local businesses.

charlie789 said...

Remmy: Are you serious when you say you don't care who our current Sheriff is endorsing, as well as most of the rest of the department?? Regardless of how you feel about Sheriff Hilton, he is the BOSS of one of the candidates, and a former boss of another. That in itself speaks tremendously that he has confidence in Major Slocum. It shows that he has been a good employee within the department, and that most of the deputies within the department have confidence in his leadership--both in law enforcement and handling the budget.

In response to your question regarding local businesses: you can go to five different businesses and ask the owners who they are supporting, and you'll get at least three different answers. My point is, every candidate is going to have support from different business groups. If economic policies are your primary concern, why don't you email questions to Major Slocum on his website, as well as Bill Robinson. I don't think Chuck Wagner has a website, but for some reason, I think you already know how to get in touch with him.

steelmagnolia said...

I agree with Remmy. The business owners, well just the citizens in general need to look at who will best represent their interests.

The endorsement by the current sheriff and support of some of the employees of the department should not be weighted any more than any other person with an opinion of who should be our next sheriff.

Granted, they have worked with these individuals and in the case of the sheriff has supervised them but that may be where the problem lies. There's your typical office politics that come into play here. The RPSO employees may not be basing their overall political opinion on what may be best for the community at large, instead they may be basing their opinion on what's best for their career and family. I would imagine that objectivity is difficult when your career and livelihood is at stake.

I don't want this election to be decided on who the sheriff department wants or endorses. I want the citizens of the parish to become involved. I'd like to encourage all citizens to get registered to vote if they are not already and to exercise that vote on election day. Research your candidates, decide who best would represent each individual's interest as well as that of the community at large.

linesecure said...

steelmagnolia

Well thought out and said.

As in all elections I will weight the candidates and make my own decision.

charlie789 said...

steelmagnolia: I have said in the past as I'll say again: nobody should vote, or not vote, for a candidate based upon an endorsement or based solely upon who another individual is supporting. HOWEVER, an endorsement shows who that person believes will do the best job, and should be taken into account when making a decision. The fact that the majority of the deparmtment believes Mike Slocum to be the best candidate should be viewed as such. Aren't they voting citizens of this parish?

In response to local businesses support, the same could be said for their endorsements; their personal interest in a candidate does not necessarily mean what is best for our community.

I will continue to disagree with your downplaying the support the department has shown Major Slocum. The Sheriff must have the respect and faith of his employees, and it says alot that they believe Major Slocum to be the most capable candidate.

Remmy said...

Whenever I mentioned the desire to see the business community involved it was from the standpoint of looking for outside endorsements. Even if the entire sheriff's department is rallying behind a single person, which I doubt, that still does not give any reason why that person (slocum or otherwise) should be sheriff. If you do not approve of the way things are being done in the department as it is, right now, then why would the department's support( that you do not approve of) matter. Just because someone has worked with a candidate before has little bearing on my choice because in my eyes that is nothing more than reaffirming my belief in the "good ol' boy" system that already exist.

And in respone to the post about the personal interest not reflecting the community, I will admit you are correct charlie. The personal interest of the sheriff, the department, and any one else affliated with such organization should have no bearing on the election or candidates. Thank you for proving my point that personel interest is driving this election and not what is best for our community.

The sheriff needs the support of the people not his employee's more. Last time I checked our nation was founded on the principle of that elected officials entered into a contract with the people. They serve at our whim and discretion. Not the employee's of the department, not the outgoing sheriff, the community as a whole. If we do not like the job they are doing we have the right as voters to terminate said contract and enter into an agreement with the person of our choice. Last time I checked that was the american system.

And out of curiousity when will the fundraising reports from the election commissioner be availble for public viewing?

charlie789 said...

Okay Remmy, where do I even begin? It's taken me a while to respond because I am just now finished laughing at your post!

To endorse someone is to "approve openly, or publicly express support". That being said, Major Slocum has THREE WRITTEN endorsements. One from a former employer, one from a current boss, and one from an admired reverend and chaplain. Regardless of how you downplay it, these people are publicly expressing their support of him, and should be weighed in the decision making process.

Now, you posted: "If we do not like the job they are doing we have the right as voters to terminate said contract and enter into an agreement with the person of our choice. Last time I checked that was the american system." Well, Remmy, the last time I checked...Major Slocum is not the current Sheriff. I find it amusing that his opponents are treating him as an incumbent. The RPSO is one of the best trained, best equipped departments in the state. So, I guess it is true that Major Slocum has been very beneficial to the department, and if you don't like all the PROGRESS that has been made, by all means, don't vote for him.

And as far as personal interest: I recommend you look very closely in the upcoming months at the least qualified candidate, and see who is pushing him. They want him to be a puppet for their "personal interest", as you like to put it. This is the only candidate running based on that "good ole boy" system as you stated. A candidate that is using favors his father gave while in office as a tool to gain support...that SCREAMS good ole boy system to me...

Just some thoughts for you, Remmy.

Remmy said...

Slocum is the philosophical and psychological incumbent in many people's minds. He has openly expressed his desire to stay the course that Hilton piloted. He appears to be the chosen successor to the hilton regime. I did not want my post to degenerate into a fight over a single candidate. I don't really care about whatever ethics violations have been commited. It's a good ol' time in the good ol' boy parish.

What seperates Slocum from Sheriff Hilton. Either he is the same or he is not. Hilton did alot of good for the parish and made progress. Slocum did his job by following orders handed down from superiors. An endorsement from someone I don't care for is a horrible flag to wave in my face and anyone else who does not like the way things are handled. Maybe I think Hilton is to easy on drug offenders and juvies.

If he is different then prove it. If he is the same then we have the right to sever the contract with the current administration which Slocum appears to be the poster child for and find someone who we think is better.

Still waiting on an endorsement that is not tainted with law enforcement from someone, anyone.

Let's get our hands on the fundraising reports and see who is supporting who.

charlie789 said...

Remmy: What separates Major Slocum from the other candidates is his capabilities. He has not just "followed orders handed down from his superiors", but he has taken proactive steps to bring new programs into the department, with the approval of the Sheriff. He has taken initiative with the authority given to him by the Sheriff as Major to bring the first Narcotics team, Motorcycle division, SWAT team, etc to the point they are at now.

Is he William Earl Hilton reincarnated? Absolutely not. Will he continue to move the RPSO in the direction of progress? Absolutely. And how do I know? Because of Major Slocum's record of accomplishments within the department. He can talk the talk BECAUSE he has walked the walk.

And let me give you this to chew on: Use this election as an analogy that our parish is hiring a new employee...the Sheriff. When you hire a new employee, is it not necessary to check with their previous and current employers as to their work ethic, capabilities etc? Wouldn't you want to know what their former and current employers thought about their job performance? THAT is how you should view Sheriff Hilton's endorsement of Major Slocum.

charlie789 said...

Oh, and one more thing: I think it is still a while yet before the campaign finance reports will be available. Don't quote me on it, but I believe they have to be turned in by February, and will be available to see by April...I'll find out for sure. And, yes, it will be interesting to see who is supporting the candidates, although I have a fairly good idea already.

charlie789 said...

Remmy: reports have to be turned in Feb 25th...you can see this on the campaign ethics website. I have a link to it on my blog.

www.thoughtsfromrapides.blogspot.com

INHARMSWAY said...

Before reading this blog I felt like Mike Slocum was the man for the job. Not so sure now. I am one of those individuals that is fed up with good old boy politics. I am looking closely at WHO is supporting WHOM. Right now the way I see it, the good old boy network is behind Slocum. I am taking a second look at Bill Robinson.

Remmy said...

Every discussion of the sheriff's race always becomes a fight between slocum supporters and non-supporters. Those who are still undecided have very little to work on. Some of us aren't impressed with endorsements, or whatever work they try to take credit for. To me, it isn't a matter of who can raise the most money or will promise to pander to certain groups of the parish. Endorsements are the good ole' boy style of politics in action.

This is not like hiring a new employee. When I hire someone new, all I care about is a clean record and legal status in the country. This is an election controlled by the masses. But it should not come down to whoever can collect the most political favors, who has who in thier back pocket, or even who has served with the force the longest. If Slocum wants to take credit for the way things are being handled right now, then be my guest.

Just to throw this out there. Slocum could not have "created" all of these divisions without money which is handled by the Sheriff. I wouldn't give my workers a credit card without some kind of plan and I'm sure Hilton did not either.

Remmy said...

Every discussion of the sheriff's race always becomes a fight between slocum supporters and non-supporters. Those who are still undecided have very little to work on. Some of us aren't impressed with endorsements, or whatever work they try to take credit for. To me, it isn't a matter of who can raise the most money or will promise to pander to certain groups of the parish. Endorsements are the good ole' boy style of politics in action.

This is not like hiring a new employee. When I hire someone new, all I care about is a clean record and legal status in the country. This is an election controlled by the masses. But it should not come down to whoever can collect the most political favors, who has who in thier back pocket, or even who has served with the force the longest. If Slocum wants to take credit for the way things are being handled right now, then be my guest.

Just to throw this out there. Slocum could not have "created" all of these divisions without money which is handled by the Sheriff. I wouldn't give my workers a credit card without some kind of plan and I'm sure Hilton did not either.

charlie789 said...

Remmy: We can go rounds about the endorsements if you'd like, or move on to other issues. I can agree to disagree with that. My only point regarding that I'd like to address now is your implying that because Slocum has the majority of support from the department, that he is part of a "good ole boy" system. Please, by all means, define that. Because as I see it, that could be said about any of the candidates.

I urge you and inharmsway to take a look at the candidates records, and determine who is the most capable man to do the job. I believe that is Mike Slocum because of his record in the department. I believe that Bill Robinson was an ineffective employee while at the RPSO, and I believe that Chuck Wagner is trying to politic based on his father's accomplishments as DA, and not on his own merit. I think he is the candidate tied deeply in that good ole boy politics. That "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" mentality.

Now, that is my opinion based on the information I have collected over that past few months.

And, I have no desire to argue, but I'll defend my support of the candidate I feel is most qualified and most capable.

Tricia said...

In my opinion, what is bothering those of you anti-Slocum bloggers, is that Mr. Slocum is so well received by such a diverse group of people. Yes, he is much more accepted in the law-enforcement arena than the other candidates. And, his favorability rating far exceeds either of the other candidates within all areas of the citizenry of Rapides Parish. He's well liked and well qualified.
Fellows, when you picked this guy to go against, you simply got on the wrong team.
From what I know about Mike Slocum, he doesnt' start a race unless he intends on finishing it. And, he runs to win.

INHARMSWAY said...

I wonder how many people would vote for the Sheriff's tax if they had it to do again? I also wonder how many people will seriously question that perpetual tax when they vote in a new sheriff. I think it is entirely possible that the current administration is in for a wake up call.

ROOSTER said...

STELL MAGNOLIA, IS THERE A NEW BLOG SOMEWHERE TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF RACE?

Tod said...

S/M--I answered him on my blog..

Adam T said...

1. I think that comparing candidate qualifications is an important first step, but I don't think it is the end all and be all of a race. Just because someone has an impressive resume doesn't mean that they would make a good Sheriff.

2. Even if on duty deputies are campaigning for one of the candidates, that is a big difference between whether or not they are being encouraged or enabled to do so. I have a lot of police officers in my family, and what the regulations state and what actually goes on is not always the same.

If you really think it is going on, get some proof and make a complaint to the RPSO Internal Affairs. If they sweep it under a rug, then you have your answer. However, if they come down on the deputies, you have your answer then too.

CreoleSister said...

Adam T, I saw an RPSO officer on an RPSO motorcycle in Pineville on 107 that had a SLOCUM bumpersticker at the bottom of the windshield of the bike. It seemed outrageous and unethical to me then and now.

Adam T said...

Creole Sister,
Did you get the unit number of the bike? It seems to me that would be very reportable.
Fact is, people in the RPSO who like the ways things are (or think things will be better w/ Slocum) are going to support him, and some of those people will do crap like that. Those that don't support Slocum will probably keep their heads down until it is over, since he is the only candidate in the RPSO.
To me, the test will be what happens when one of the Slocum supporters crosses the line of campaigning while on duty and gets reported. What will happen to them.

I'm also very curious as to how the whole "Club Retro" thing works out. I'd like to see if Slocum will come out publicly to respond to the allegations in that situation.

fairplayinpolitics said...

Creole sister is wrong. The motorcycle is NOT an RPSO motorcycle. And, although he may have been in uniform on his way to work, that is not against the rules since RPSO deputies not civil servants.

And, believe me, there are a few deputies supporting the other candidates and they are doing just as much, if not more blatant, campaigning. Joe Marler, a school resource officer, was calling people FROM THE SCHOOL inviting them to a fundraiser for Bill Robinson. And, Ronnie Wagner (Chuck Wagner's brother), brought Chuck to the detectives division and was shuttling him around introducing deputies to him asking for support.

That's an idiotic accusation for Creole sister to make.

fairplayinpolitics said...

And, I don't think the Club Retro thing was that big of a deal; the owners are trying to play the race card, but I don't think it was as big of a deal as the media made of it when it happened, and I don't think it is that big of a deal now. My vote won't be determined by this small incident.

Adam T said...

Fairplay,
I don't think the media had someone on the raid, and I doubt that they did much reporting beyond taking statements from people in the RPSO. They are owned by Gannett publishing, which doesn't often pay reporters to actually report. So, all the media statements were generated by the RPSO, although most of them are not attributed to an individual.

There are currently at least 2 lawsuits on this issue, in which there are responses. Some of the information in the suits is apparently wrong (race of some of the officers), but so to is some of the information in the media hype surrounding the arrest.

I want to see how Slocum deals with this issues. For example, a big deal was made about the guns, but apparently those guns have been returned to the owners and no charges pressed. If that is wrong, let's see Slocum refute it. Apparently, no charges at all have been filed with the DA's office against the owners. So, my conclusions are that there was no cause for arrest, or that there was cuase for arrest but the RPSO screwed it up so badly that the DA couldn't make a case, or the DA's office had a great case but is just deciding its not important. Maybe their attorney is the 2nd coming of Johnny Cochrane.

Another one is the bigg issue made of a child under 10 "sitting at the bar." I mean, that is a big statement which has been repeated on several blogs. However, I have yet to hear a single officer come forward and swear to seeing that occur. Which probably means that someone from RPSO lied to the paper. Apparently, no one was charged with child endangerment, etc.

The reason this is a big deal for me is that if I am in my home, or in my own business, I don't want the government coming and taking my gun. I have never known a bar owner/operator who didn't have a gun. The idea that that is okay for the government to come and take guns, and keep them for months before returning them is scary. What if someone had come in to rob this place 4 days after the raid? Would they have been able to defend themselves.

Now, I'm not saying that I believe the civil suits, but I do think that the RPSO in general, and Mike Slocum specifically since he is part of and running to continue the current RPSO administration, needs to come out and put the story straight.

CreoleSister said...

Fairplay...I guess I didn't get as good a look at the bike when the fumes of disdain started to rise after seeing the sticker and the uniform. So there is no misconception later on...I DO NOT support the current sheriff's dept leadership, nor will I apologize for same. Notice I said the leadership, and not the individual deputies. Most deputies try to do their jobs to the best of their ability and with the training they have received, and I appreciate their service.

Adam T, you are absolutely right. The MEDIA did not say the following, they published what they were told:

More than 100 cited, 22 arrested in club raid

By Tom Bonnette and Mandy M. Goodnight
tbonnette@thetowntalk.com; mgoodnight@thetowntalk.com
(318) 487-6340; (318) 487-6465


"More than 100 people were cited, 22 arrested and one trampled during a weekend raid at a Vandenburg Drive night club, where authorities allegedly found drugs and weapons.

The Sunday morning raid at Club Retro, said Rapides Parish Sheriff's Capt. James Raul, was the result of complaints and a drug investigation. When officers arrived at the Alexandria nightspot, they found a 4-year-old sitting at the bar and children as young as 13 inside, said Rauls, supervisor of Metro Narcotics."


and

"Rauls and Slocum said the raid came after members of the community complained that the club was staying open after the 2 a.m. closing time, had cars blocking Vandenburg Drive, was allowing juveniles inside, and was allowing the sale of illegal drugs.

Metro Narcotics agents' investigation "found that narcotics such as marijuana, powder cocaine, Ecstasy pills, Watson and Xanax bars, etc., were being sold in the club openly and outside the club as well," Rauls states in a media release."


and in their grand finale release of information about what was found...

"RPSO displays evidence from Club Retro raid

Rapides Parish Sheriff's officials displayed Wednesday evidence seized from an early Sunday morning raid on Club Retro, located on Vandenburg Drive.

A variety of Ecstasy and Xanax pills, marijuana blunts, a Glock 40 and FN 75 gun were among the items taken in the raid. RPSO Maj. Mike Slocum said the FN 75 gun was an "unusual" find, because it fires .223-round ammunition that can pierce police vests.

The guns were found in the club's business office and state law prohibits firearms in clubs, Slocum said."

All of this was in the Town Talk, and was what the sheriff's department officials told them. I have purposely excluded the comments that were not directly attributed to Major Slocum and Captain Rauls.

Notice the last part..."state law prohibits firearms in clubs, Slocum said."

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG...patrons are not allowed to bring firearms in to clubs or bars, owners, and people leasing a bar, and their employees are allowed to do so. See La. R.S. 14:95.5

I would like to think that any police officer, much less if someone were considering running for sheriff, might consider researching a crime to determine the elements of the crime and decide whether or not the elements have been met before arresting someone and seizing their property.

But obviously, since that wasn't done, the guns were given back.

BTW, the WE SAW THAT blog is currently trying to upload the Retro raid video. Hopefully, the good people of this area will see it for what it truly was, a terrorist activity in the good ole USA, under the guise of badges and guns.

Adam T said...

Creolesister,

I'll try to download and watch the video, but I'll tell you that pictures and video can be shot or edited to produce a certain look/feel.

As far as Slocum's comments, I would normally say that Slocum may have been talking about patrons having guns in a bar, and his statement was just not explicit.

However, if he is correctly quoted and said the guns were found in the office, then that bothers me a lot. I am very, very wary of the government coming into someone's home or business and taking their guns.

"Never let the government do to someone else what you would not want them to do to you."

Adam T said...

And another thing. Why haven't we heard anything from the NRA about this matter. From what I have seen, the guns were seized and held for months, even though there is apparently no evidence that they were used in any crime. From what I gather, no one who worked at the bar was charged with any drug offenses, and even if there were minors in the bar I don't think that they were forced there at gunpoint by the owners.

Imagine someone calls in a drug tip on you, the police raid your home or business, find no drugs on you but determine you have some code violation or a misdemeanor warrant that has nothing to do with drugs or violence, and use that to take your guns and keep them for months. What do you do the week after this when some criminal is trying to breakdown your door or assault your family or employees.

A.T.

CreoleSister said...

Adam T,

I know for a fact the guns were found in the business office/apartment which was located inside the club. The guns were not on anyone's person, and at least one was in a filing cabinet and one was in a safe, I believe. The smallest of the handguns was located in the owner's wife's purse, as it was to be used for her protection, and she had carried it in out of her car that night. The purse was located in a cabinet in the bathroom of the apartment if I am not mistaken. So is it just me, or is that a pretty scary situation? Taking guns for no reason, keeping them for months, and then having to return them without so much as an apology, after the rightful owners petitioned the court and won to get them back. Needless to say, the NRA has not been informed as far as I know, and I don't know if they would help or not...but it seems like the owners have taken up this matter with the courts. Hopefully this will set a precedent and not allow this shake and bake kind of policing to continue.

torchbearer said...

I haven't read the numerous blogs before me.... but I can attest to the corruption and disregard shown by Slocum and over the next few months i will be releasing his misdeeds on video to the person running wesawthat.blogspot.com . Starting with the ATC video that was redacted before i got hold of it, but also i have all 6 security cameras from the night club showing slocum there right in the middle of the abuse of 1000 citizens civil rights, lack of warrants, lack of 'real' charges leveed on the owners, and i garuntee it will all come out in court. i've seen the case materials, Slocum is a crook who is owned by the old money of the area. you want proof, keep following wesawthat's blog. His abuse of power and abuse of the citizens of cenla needs to stop. He's bad on civil rights, he''s bad for new business, and the only supporters he has are friends and old money. the video's will be his conviction! (the same video's he sent his deputies in to confiscate a day later, but were already moved to a safe location. he screwed up royalty and the boy needs to become a man and own up to his mistakes, do what is best for the people of this area, and drop out of law enforcement all together.

Adam T said...

torchbearer,

I looked at the ATC video on wesawthat. It looked like it could have been simply started and stopped at various times. I am definitely looking forward to seeing the in-club video.
I don't know if you can damn Slocum for this if he was simply following orders. If the Sheriff says do X, you do X.
I do have a couple of questions. At the beginning, when the woman was screaming on the floor for an ambulence, I want to know:
1. How long had she been there before the camera showed up? It looked like the actual raid was over and all the deputies and officers were very relaxed, so I am guessing it was several minutes later.
2. That looked like Slocum standing there when she was screaming, but I'm not sure.
3. When that same woman was asking for an ambulance, was that a female deputy snapping at her "Don't touch me!!"?
Thanks, A.T.

CreoleSister said...

Adam T, I am beginning to think you get the picture! LOL! In a quick addition to an earlier rant I had about a motorcycle bearing a SLOCUM sticker that I thought was a duty vehicle, just this morning, once again, in Pineville, I saw what I KNOW to be an unmarked white in color 4 door Crown Victoria police vehicle with police lights and communications traveling down Hwy 107 with a SLOCUM sticker firmly affixed to the right rear bumper. I wish "fair play in politics" could somehow tell me that what I saw was not a public vehicle, but the lights in the grill and on the dashboard gave it away as being an unmarked police car. Too bad I couldn't get a look at the guy's uniform, if he had one on at all. But since he slowed down at a red light next to me and then took a right at the redlight without actually stopping, I was only able to see that it was a male driver, and once he had turned right, the SLOCUM sticker on the bumper. Is that legal, and if so, it is ethical?

torchbearer said...

Adam,
All I can say is that Hilton was out of town at the time. Operation-Retrofit was spearheaded by slocum. Now the real questions is.. which one of his contributors gave him the 'tip' there were drugs at retro when there weren't any at all. it was the most secure clean ran club in town.

The ATC video actually started sometime after the raid, i'm working with the club surveillance videos and my first guess is that ATC came in about 45 minutes or longer after the armed militants stormed the peaceful place, so the girl screaming for help had been doing so for sometime,,, and then on the ATC video showed that same girl was basically told to shut up and 'don't touch me'
Slocum knew of the injured girl and ignored her because he really thought that raid was going to be his moment of glory. You should see the 'masked men' desperately looking for drugs but finding nothing...(which is in the other videos) but most of that is on the clubs security camera video which they put in a safe place so it wouldn't be altered like the ATC tape.
please be patient with me, the raid is about 3 hours long and i have 7 DVDs full of stuff on the RPSO and Slocum in specific.
I haven about 45 more of these large post to make so that people can know the truth about the man running for sheriff, slocum, and the actions of his gang of thugs.

Has even made a public apology or any other type of attorney prepared release regarding the incident? Or is his hoping it just all goes away.
Seems like if it was such a victory he'd be parading it around like a big bright banner for everyone to see instead of hiding from it.

Remmy said...

I have heard from neighbor that a new candidate would be joining the race. A black candidate already in law enforcement. anyone else heard the same thing? I'm checking the message boards and blog to get more information if it's true.

steelmagnolia said...

Remmy,

That's very interesting if indeed fact. Anyone else have any information (fact) to back it up?
Please tell!

steelmagnolia said...

Creolesister,

I'm going to be on the lookout for those unmarked vehicles with
Slocum stickers. Get some identifying information on them if you can. How blatantly unjust and unethical is that? I'm paying for that car and it's showcasing Mr. Slocum's name. A known RPSO unmarked vehicle with a Slocum support sticker?

fairplayinpolitics said...

steelmagnolia, you're going to be looking a long time b/c there aren't any. and while you're wasting you're time doing that, i'll be keeping my eye on paula brady wasting our tax payer dollars in the da's office politicing on the clock for chuck wagner...then i'll mosey on down to the detectives division and see where ronnie wagner goes with his little bro chuck, while on duty.

Blue Steele said...

Mike Slocum is a man of fine character and deep concern for the Rapides Parish Sheriff's Office, and the people of the Rapides Parish. You don't have to look to hard to find him he will always be where he is needed the most. Usually thats in helping someone in need. The Rapides Parish Sheriff's office has been made one of the finest in the state. This is due to dedicated people like Major Slocum following the lead of a great Sheriff himself William Earl Hilton. I know that Major Slocum would never do anything to tarnish the reputation that he and so many others have worked so hard to establish. I am confident in knowing that Major Slocum is running for all the right reasons, because he has a geniune interests in public service to Rapides Parish and the people living here. Major Slocum knows where the dept. is headed and knows how to keep it going in that direction. He is truely the best man for the job and my time and faith is in him. Keep up the good job Mike.

Blue Steele said...

Charlie 789
Thank you so much for allowing me to voice my opinion. I am currently an employee of the Rapides Parish Sheriff's Dept. I have been so for almost 12 years now. I have worked with Bill Robinson and Mike Slocum, and I have met and talked to Charles Wagner on several occasions. I am endorsing Mike Slocum for Sheriff. I would also like anyone reading this to know that I am on my own time right now not the taxpayers time.
I feel that Mike is the best man for the job for several reasons. The biggest one being that he knows the high standard of excellence that we have obtained over the years thanks to Sheriff Hilton with the help of so many more. Mike knows what it will take to up hold that standard. Mike is a sincere and hard working man with deep concern for the people of Rapides Parish. Mike is running because he truely believes that he can help the people of this parish and do the kind of job that will make the people of this parish proud. After all thats what a public servant is supposed to do. A lot of people have forgotten that but Mike isn't one of them.

The other two candidates have at one time turned their back on law enforcement. Whats to say they won't do that again?

You have to be a giver to take a job like Sheriff. You have to be able to give of your time your heart and your head. Unfortunately of your private time as well. The new Sheriff will get calls all times of the day and night. Only a man willing to give as much can handle that kind of job. I don't believe that the other two candidates are givers, I believe they are takers. I believe that they are both part of that Good Ole Boy politics that some people screaming to get away from.

Mike Slocum will up hold the old traditions of the Rapides Parish Sheriff'f Office and he will impliment some new ideas and at the same time keep our standards as high as they have ever been.

For me there is no other candidate he might as well be running by himself. I know come election day that the people of Rapides Parish will feel the same way I do.

Thank you for giving me this opporturnity .

Tod said...

Bluesteele-Talk about double talk.I have to admit tho that you are good at it.In one paragraft you say that you believe Robinson and Wagner are both part of the "good old boy" politics that some people (are) screaming to get away from. Yet in the very next sentence you say "Mike Slocum will uphold the old traditions of the Rapides Sheriffs Office". Can't seem to get it straight can you.Slocum is the problem NOT the solution.

sometimesthetruthhurts said...

Blue,
You have no idea what you're talking about by accusing the other 2 candidates of being "takers". In fact, I think it may just be the other way around. They're the "givers" and your Slocum is a "taker". Guess it just depends on who you're for or who you're just against. What I know of Slocum, I sure don't want him to be our next sheriff. To carry on the old traditions set forth by Sheriff Hilton? I think it's high time for that to come to an end. I'm not saying that Sheriff Hilton didn't do great things for the Sheriff's department but I believe he got a little too caught up in the "power of the office". Talk about your "good ole boy" politics, I'm afraid that is the current M.O. Gotta keep Slocum out of there to get rid of it.

charlie789 said...

Blue steele: Thanks for attempting to keep things positive. As usual, tod, sometimes, et al have come slithering on with their negativity. But, that's what you do when you're running scared, and can't run a race based on merit. Please feel free to bring positive discussions on my blog; I am able to attend it again, as I have been out of pocket for a while.

PUNO said...

Well done & said,Thanks Charlie & Bluesteele.

laskeeter said...

The President of the United States flies all over the US campaigning not only for himself, but fellow politicians at tax payer’s expense. Big bucks! All presidents do it... The few buck Slocum will spend while working is a drop in the bucket. I have no problem with it.